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Bad People

98. Central Park Jogger 1: Do you know your right to silence?

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

It’s 9pm in New York City. More than thirty young men have gathered on the corner of 110th Street and 5th Avenue. They are attacking innocent people in Central Park. What they don’t know is that a woman will also be sexually assaulted, and that five of their friends will be convicted for a brutal crime they didn’t commit. The Central Park Five falsely confess on video to police. In this episode of Bad People, hosts Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen explore how well we know our right to silence, how much it is influenced by what we see on TV. They also ask: when does silence look like guilt? CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Lauren Armstrong-Carter Assistant Producer: Hannah Ward Editors: Anna Lacey and Richard Collings Music: Matt Chandler Production Co-ordinator: Jonathan Harris Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland #BadPeople_BBC

Transcript

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0:00.0

What is it called a smart speaker? Because it's smart. You ask it to do something and it'll

0:10.4

be done. Just say smart speaker, ask BBC sounds to play your favourite music mix. Oh, that's

0:15.9

nice. Or you can say, ask BBC sounds to play that brand new podcast. Oh! And you can even

0:22.8

ask BBC sounds to pause, rewind and restart live radio on your smart speaker. If only

0:28.4

everything in life is that simple. For music, radio and podcasts, on most smart speakers, just say

0:34.1

smart speaker, ask BBC sounds. Three, two, one. Sophie, how would you define being silent?

0:44.4

Very good. What if I'm using nonverbal ways to illustrate things to you? Like a sort of

0:49.5

act of silence? You mean like sign language? Or just movement, illustrators?

0:55.3

Hmm. Yeah, I guess I never thought of that. And how much do you think you read into or from

1:00.4

someone's what we might call passive silence? So for example, I sometimes read into people not

1:05.4

responding to me on WhatsApp or email. So I guess I sometimes build entire alternate realities that

1:10.9

emerge from silence. What about you? Yeah. Oh, when you see them typing, you see typing dot,

1:17.8

and then suddenly nothing. And then they start being online. I become so certain like,

1:25.6

oh, okay, so they just, I guess they just hate me now.

1:30.9

And not, you know, oh, they were probably on the underground. Yeah, yeah. The loudest

1:34.5

silence is those three little dots. I missed the old Nokia 3210. You didn't know that they'd

1:41.8

seen it or that they were, they were typing something. Yeah. On this episode, why do most of us

1:47.2

not know our right to silence? Note that this episode contains graphic descriptions of violence,

1:52.7

injury, and sexual assault. As always, there could be some strong language. I'm Dr. Julia Shaw,

1:57.6

criminal psychologist, and I'm Sophie Hagan, stand-up comedian. And this is bad, bad people.

2:10.1

At about 10.05, I'll victim 28-year-old female who was jogging on the 100th second street

2:20.4

cross-drive was a tank-way group. It was a brutal attack on a 28-year-old woman jog. There was

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