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Alcohol is a leading preventable cause of cancer in the U.S.

Johns Hopkins researcher Johannes Thruyl talks to Stephanie Desmond about how there's no safe amount of alcohol when it comes to cancer risk,

how norms have started to change around drinking, and how the U.S. needs better public health communications,

including updated warning labels on alcoholic beverages.

Let's listen.

Johannes Truel, thanks so much for joining me.

Thank you so much for having me.

So earlier this year, you co-authored an op-ed with your colleague Elizabeth Platt,

and this first sentence really struck me, and it said, alcohol causes cancer, and we

should be drinking less of it.

Unpack that for me, please.

Yeah, so the evidence has been clear for quite a while.

So alcohol is grouped with, together with cigarettes, right?

Tobacco smoking and asbestos is a group one carcinogen.

But what I would put forward is that this is actually not widely known in the population.

We said this in the editorial and so I will reiterate it here that the public health and the

cancer prevention community has some work to do to get this message out into the population.

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