Welcome to syntax. Today we have Armin and Mario on, and these are the guys who are working on something called Pi. Now, pie is a, I asked them to describe it in a single line, which they said it's a minimal coding agent harness that is infinitely extensible, which that's a bunch of words,

but I'm gonna tell you two things here, right?

So one, this is the underlying tech behind Claudebot

Maltbot that everybody's freaking out about right now.

And two, they're probably gonna tell you,

like maybe you don't even need Claudebot,

or if you wanna build your own Claudebot or if you want to build your own cloudbot

or if you want to make your own agent that can do whatever the hell it is that you want yes coding

but also probably anything in your life this could be like a harness that could actually use it

so welcome guys thanks so much for coming on appreciate it thanks for. Yeah. You want to give us a quick rundown of who

you are and what you do? I think you should go first because it's his project. I'm just the

excited user. He is the junior developer that's a stop PR at the GitHub repository.

I'm Mario. I'm a hobby programmer of 30 years.

I worked in all kinds of roles in the game industry,

in applied machine learning,

in, well, I guess now in the AI industry to some degree.

And it's been a while since I had my exit,

so I have a lot of free time.

Nice. Yeah. And Armin actually has been on the show before talking about cues, but that was

quite a while ago. So, yeah, I want to give everybody. At the time I worked for Century, I left

Century in April, which I think maybe February, April, something like this. And I was perfectly

lined up with me, not immediately starting something, but falling into, like,

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