The pudding of bullet into another human being is an unnatural act.

And that's just not a situation you want to escalate.

Hello and welcome to Best Case Worst Case. I'm your host,

Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor.

You guys may notice that Jim is once again on assignment,

writing, producing, directing, doing something Hollywood at the moment.

So I am here interviewing someone very special.

I'm really excited to bring you guys another story from Ryan Phillips.

Here we are back again with former SWAT commander,

current security head at Pinewood Studios in Atlanta.

So guys, I'm on assignment again in my favorite place in the world,

my home state of Georgia. California is great.

Ellie's wonderful, the weather is fantastic, but nothing beats home.

Absolutely right.

And nothing beats a Southern accent.

So I love when we get to interview someone from my own home state

with a Southern accent, which Ryan, you have one.

I try to deliver whatever you ask.

You totally do.

So last time you talked to us about something really exciting,

a raid that you went on when you were SWAT commander that ended up with no one dead,

no one shot, whether it was the people who's house you hit or your team.

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