Hi, I'm Gilbert Gottfried. This is Gilbert Gottfried's amazing colossal podcast. I'm here with my co-host Frank Santosh.

I'm going to go to the library once again at Nutmeg Post with our engineer Frank Verderotso.

Nice. Yeah. Okay. Our guest this week is a writer musician, comedian and one of the most prolific and versatile actors of the last 40 years.

The film movies include young doctors in love, clue, earth girls are easy, cone heads, best in show, the Brady Bunch movie, a mighty wind.

And one of the most revered comedies of all time, this is spinal tap. He's also made his mark in dozens of television shows including Dream on, the X-File, Smallville, Family Tree.

And the current sensation, Better Call Saul. You want more? He's also a talented songwriter who can post several of spinal taps, non-hits, as well as the Oscar nominated a kiss at the end of the rainbow from a mighty wind.

Please welcome the only man alive who might do a better Vincent Price than I do. Our pal Michael McGee and Gilbert, that's a beautiful intro.

Yeah. I can't possibly live up to that. Welcome Michael. Thank you guys. Now, now I should start out by confessing something. I have never seen this is spinal tap. Is it true?

Yeah. Blast for me. And see the problem is I went a certain amount of time without seeing it and everyone tells me how great it is. So now I know I can't see it because now nothing can live up to that.

I know. I know. That's true. Well, then skip it. Yeah. Okay. Everybody else likes the shows. Can we talk about talk about anything else?

A Vernon Shirley. You caught that. Yeah. That I saw. That's more his era. You know that you weren't overhyped on how good that was.

Now you you and David Landon invented those characters years before. Yeah. Yeah. We went. We met at college in 1965 at what is now Carnegie Mellon.

At the time it was Carnegie Tech as before the Mellon money. Once they were sure we were out of there, they started endowing it. But yeah, we met and we were on we were actors together and acting school and teenagers and you know drugs were consumed.

But we got to know we just spoke a little pot and we got a little silly and we created those characters along with many others and David had a persona he did was kind of a you know heartless show biz talk show persona guy.

And but we also had these two two guys that were kind of based on guys we went to school with. And we made people laugh and we thought well there's only commercial about these guys.

But nine years later, Penny had this show Penny Marshall had this show. She was a pal. She said maybe you hire those guys as writers. We were at the time David and Harry Sheerer and myself were known as the credibility gap and we were a satirical outfit and let it sat on the news on the radio and live.

And so they hired the three of us to write on the show and said maybe we'll work those characters in so we worked ourselves into the first episode.

And we said boy is this easier than writing and so yeah, so we stayed.

Did you guys do it at a party at Red Rothman? Yeah, the creators of the show. Right. You're asked to do it.

Rob Reiner and Penny Marshall were married at the time and there was a celebratory party because Penny had sold the show. You know, Penny and her brother Gary Marshall and Mark Rothman and no local gans who were writers on happy days.

They spent these two characters off of LeBernan Shirley. So they got a got to go ahead from ABC, but they didn't have any supporting cast.

So they figure well hire these guys and let's do it. So we did this. Did the characters at a party. We did a piece that we'd never done before or since and we got some laughs and they said okay, good.

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