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These guys are very sophisticated operators.

I mean, it's not easy.

In most scenarios, this thing flops.

It's not going to work out, but it did work out.

This is a serious nation state like you might want to take it seriously

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My guest today, Patrick Wynne.

He's a journalist who got basically

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