There was always an unknown element. In fact, I remember when I was interviewed for the job by George Jenin, he said,

well, I just got to tell you that this is not your average squadron, which, you know, didn't need be said but he went on to

on to say that you know we we don't know everything we'd like to know about

these airplanes and as good as our maintenance is, we're going to have surprises and there's an

element of risk if you decide to come fly these things. We sort of trust the

objection seats, but you know luckily we haven't had to really try them

But yeah, it's that element of risk but I guess also you know I was single guy at the time. I didn't care. To me, that was one big adventure.

That was the allure. I go, well, yeah, I don't give a shit.

Because, you know, it's kind of like big sky theory, right? You go, it'll never happen to me.

And I think it's kind of

mindset I went into you know with going yeah I've done all those other shit I've

flown F4s a bunch of them air to ground here there 5s, I go, you know, you know, I'm sure we both come close to getting

killed at times, of the times we knew about.

I'm sure there's other times we had no idea.

You were about to get midair.

No one ever saw the other guy.

So in fact, it's also, sometimes people ask me,

you know, what's the close you ever got to being killed? I go, I mean, you mean the times I knew about, right? left send 0, 0,000 and 5, to take off.

Seats hide, Al-Tona-0, is clear for takeoff,

clear for the airspace.

Viper check, too.

I was going to be my friend-ramed car,

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