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American English Pronunciation Podcast

96: How ’women’ could have been ’wimmen’

American English Pronunciation Podcast

Seattle Learning Academy

Language Learning, Self-improvement, Education

4.6543 Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2010

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Noah Webster did his best to make spelling easier, but his ideas weren't always accepted. Full episode transcripts at www.pronuncian.com/podcast.

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0:00.0

Hi everyone and welcome back to Seattle Learning Academy's American English pronunciation podcast.

0:12.6

My name is Mandy, and this is our 96th episode.

0:18.0

Noah Webster, of the famed Miriam Webster's Dictionary, published his American Dictionary of the English Language way back in 1828.

0:29.5

It was the first dictionary of word usage specifically for the United States.

0:35.6

Webster's second claim to fame was his bold desire to simplify spelling and

0:40.3

make it more phonetic. In other words, he wanted spelling and pronunciation to match more closely.

0:48.3

As born in the United States, Webster did simplify things somewhat.

0:55.0

For non-native English speakers, however, it really only made learning English spelling

1:00.0

more complex.

1:02.0

Yes, you can blame Noah Webster for the fact that Americans have different spellings from

1:07.5

the rest of the world.

1:10.4

Many of Webster's more audacious spellings never made it into the mainstream.

1:16.0

One word that kept its old English roots is the word women, the plural of woman.

1:24.6

Webster adamantly suggested changing the W-O-M-E-N spelling to a more phonetic W-I-M-M-E-N.

1:35.3

As a teacher of English to non-Native speakers, I find myself sometimes wishing the WI-M-M-E-N spelling had stuck.

1:46.5

Women.

1:47.8

So clearly pronounced, with a short-eye sound as the first vowel.

1:53.0

Women.

1:54.7

I don't know of any spelling Webster wished for the singular of women, though.

2:04.8

The other-you sound uh, of the word woman, has no simple phonetic pattern in English. That uh sound is the same vowel sound as the words

2:14.1

put, P-U-T, and good, G-O-O-O-D.

2:20.8

I'm not sure people really would guess that sound, however, even if the word woman were spelled W-U-M-A-N or W-O-O-M-A-N.

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