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And in theory, building a biosafety level 3, level 4 lab

should be a good thing.

But if they're not properly maintained,

if the people in them are not trained,

if they're not following the protocols,

all it does is give potentially a false sense of security.

The Government Accountability Office in the United States

has been warning more than a decade at this point.

The more of these experiments with dangerous

pathogens that are done, it increases the risk of a catastrophic accident.

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