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956: How a 3% Interest Rate Cost Me Over $180,000 (Avoid My Mistake) w/Tanner Litchfield

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

BiggerPockets

Education, Investing, Business

4.816.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

"Subject to" real estate has been exploding in popularity. When mortgage rates began to rise, subject to (often called sub to) came in as the hero to save the day. This real estate investing strategy offered investors the chance to take over low-interest-rate loans from homeowners who wanted to sell their properties. And, with often a minimal down payment required, new and experienced investors lined up to give this fast-scaling strategy a try. Without even knowing it, Tanner Litchfield did the same. After being brought a home run, three-percent mortgage rate deal, Tanner knew he had to act quickly to secure what would be a massive passive income play. He put down a six-figure down payment to secure it, with another seventy thousand dollars in renovation costs. Things were rolling smoothly until…they weren’t. Tanner lost every penny he put into this property and the property itself while another investor walked away with it in hand. How did this happen, and how do YOU avoid a six-figure creative financing mistake? In today’s episode, Tanner walks through every difficult detail of this deal gone wrong. He shares the red flags he should have seen in the beginning and the one thing that could have saved him from this deadly deal. If you’re interested in seller financing, subject to, or any other type of creative financing, you MUST listen to this episode, or you could be hit with a six-figure loss, too. In This Episode We Cover: Subject to real estate explained and why so many investors are flocking to this strategy The “due on sale" clause which can easily lose you an entire property if called Why you MUST understand the zoning and rules for your rental property BEFORE you buy it The “gray area” of creative financing that is putting new and veteran investors at risk Why having a solid network in your investing area can stop you from getting burned  And So Much More! Links from the Show Find an Agent Find a Lender BiggerPockets Youtube Channel BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets Pro Membership BiggerPockets Bookstore BiggerPockets Bootcamps BiggerPockets Podcast BiggerPockets Merch Property Manager Finder Join BiggerPockets for FREE Learn About Real Estate, The Housing Market, and Money Management with The BiggerPockets Podcasts Get More Deals Done with The BiggerPockets Investing Tools Find a BiggerPockets Real Estate Meetup in Your Area Expand Your Investing Knowledge With the BiggerPockets Books Be a Guest on the BiggerPockets Podcast Ask David Your Real Estate Investing Question Dave's BiggerPockets Profile Dave's Instagram Henry's BiggerPockets Profile Henry's Instagram Hear Dave and Henry On the “On the Market” Podcast Watch Dave on the “On The Market” YouTube Channel The Hidden Risks of “Subject To” Real Estate w/Eddie Speed Creative Financing: How To Use It In Real Estate Connect with Tanner: Tanner's BiggerPockets Profile (00:00) Intro (01:20) Ditching Dentistry to Invest (04:35) Finding Creative Financing (06:15) A Perfect Deal on Paper (10:15) Scoring a 3% Interest Rate? (12:39) Things Go Really Wrong (21:15) A Massive "Gray Area" (25:43) A Chance of Recovering? (30:25) What Tanner Would Do Differently Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and  https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-956 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Subject to, otherwise known as Sub2, has been a hot new strategy in the real estate community recently.

0:07.0

You can sometimes put no money down, it's a great way to scale your portfolio, and in a lot of ways it sounds like a win. But what happens

0:16.1

when sub-two deals go wrong and loans get called? What if you had a hundred and eighty

0:22.1

thousand dollars on the line?

0:24.1

Today we're going to talk to someone who had just that happened to him.

0:28.3

Hey everyone, I'm your host Dave Meyer and with me today is Henry

0:37.1

Washington. Henry, thanks for joining us.

0:39.6

What's going on Dave? Thank you for having me. So today we're talking with

0:42.4

an investor named Tanner Litchfield, who is a seasoned investor who got burned by a sub-2 deal. Today we're going to go through his story and discuss what the risks of sub-2 deals are, what happens if a loan gets called

0:55.3

due, and how to prevent losing money or the deal in total with this potentially risky

1:00.3

strategy.

1:01.3

Yeah, I'm looking forward to this conversation because I think it's important with any strategy,

1:04.9

whether it's sub two, flipping, short-term rentals, whatever, to present both the risks and the rewards,

1:10.7

the upside, the downside, the potential pitfalls of every real estate strategy and so that's what we're

1:15.8

trying to do here today with this conversation with Tanner let's bring them on

1:20.8

Tanner welcome to the podcast thanks for for joining us today. Of course, I'm happy to be here.

1:26.0

We want to hear about your story and experience with doing a sub two deal, but let's first just learn a little bit about you and your investing history.

1:34.5

How long have you been an investor? I've been investing for about six years now since

1:40.8

2018. Nice and what made you get into it?

1:44.0

You know it's funny because it's the cliche I was going to be a dentist.

1:49.0

I thought I was going to just make this money and be free the rest of my life and then I decided do I actually

1:55.5

want to dig in people's teeth for the rest of my life no I do not want to do that so then I

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