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Public Health On Call

955 - Mental Health Care in ICE Custody

Public Health On Call

The Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

News, Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.6 • 644 Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

About this episode:

How well do ICE detention centers provide mental health care? In this episode: We first hear from Dr. Solomiya Tsymbalyuk from the University of Maryland about an emergency department interaction that presented legal and ethical questions around treating individuals in ICE custody. Then, Dr. Katherine Peeler of Physicians for Human Rights offers a look at how mental health care should be offered in immigration detention centers and why those protocols are becoming more difficult to follow.

Guest:

Dr. Katherine Peeler, MA, is a pediatric critical care physician and a medical adviser at Physicians for Human Rights. She leads the Peeler Immigration Lab where she researches the health and health rights of immigrants and, in particular, asylum seekers.

Dr. Solomiya Tsymbalyuk is a fourth-year psychiatric resident at the University of Maryland Medical Center.

Host:

Dr. Josh Sharfstein is distinguished professor of the practice in Health Policy and Management, a pediatrician, and former secretary of Maryland's Health Department.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Public Health On Call, a podcast from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health,

0:05.9

where we bring evidence, experience, and perspective to make sense of today's leading health challenges.

0:16.3

If you have questions or ideas for us, please send an email to public health question at jhhhu.edu.

0:23.8

That's public health question at jhhu.edu for future podcast episodes.

0:31.2

Hey listeners, it's Lindsay Smith Rogers.

0:34.1

Today, in this two-part episode, accessing mental health care in ICE custody.

0:39.3

Dr. Solomia Simbuluk is a fourth-year psychiatry resident at the University of Maryland,

0:43.9

where she and her team were asked to provide psychiatric care to a man in ICE custody.

0:48.9

In part two of today's episode, Dr. Josh Sharfstein then talks to Dr. Catherine Peeler,

0:55.9

a medical advisor for Physicians for Human rights. Dr. Peeler offers an inside look at how health care is provided in ICE detention centers

1:01.9

and discusses the barriers to mental health care for many in custody. Let's listen.

1:07.5

Dr. Soleimba, Simbabu, thank you so much for joining me today in Public Health on call.

1:12.6

Happy to be here. I'd like to ask you to introduce yourself to our audience.

1:18.5

Of course. I'm a fourth year psychiatry resident at the University of Maryland and Shepard

1:23.3

Pratt residency program. And if I recall, there are only four years in a psychiatry residency program, so you must

1:31.1

be well on your way to becoming a full-fledged psychiatrist.

1:34.9

I'm very close.

1:36.8

Well, it was in the process of your residency that you became aware of a case that has

1:42.8

lingered with you, so much that you wrote about it in a medical

1:46.4

journal. I'd like to ask you first to set the scene. Sure. So this happened in a large

1:52.9

emergency department in a major U.S. city. We were being asked to evaluate a patient who presented

1:59.8

in the custody of ICE.

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