Hello,

Long Gone is here.

I'm trying to put on a happy face. We're going to have a good podcast today with our fun guests. And I'm feeling good because Taylor Lorenz wines that in NYC bagel shops don't use the right vegan cream cheese and wants Mom Donnie to intervene. I hate to side with her, but she might have a good point of this. Not that I'm consuming that much vegan cream cheese, but it's something to consider where I think this is a low-stakes thing. If Mamdani's given people discounts for the World Cup, the least he could do is fix the cream cheese. Oh, really? I will say, we've both, I'm sure, over the years, eaten many, many bites of Tof-y cream cheese, and it does leave a lot to be desired. But it might be the easiest thing that's available through Cisco or whichever, you know, whichever service you're using to deliver your supplies at your local bagelaria. So it's... Bagelria? Yeah, that's your local Jewish panadaria is what you're saying yeah i don't obviously this comes down

you know we don't know if taylor is a real uh eater

obviously she's a real eater um and my hats off to her but you know how some people have

have celiac disease and some people are gluten-free

and some people are dairy intolerant. I think there's a strong chance that her actual, you know,

deficiency and allergy to dairy is real. But it's one of those things like, you know, New York City

bagel shops. You want the New York City bagel shops.

You want the real NYC bagel experience.

I want my bagel deria man to say, fuck out of here when you ask for cashew cream cheese.

And also, I don't disagree with. I don't.

I agree with it.

I see actually, I see both sides here.

I really do. It's one of the only things where the vegan version of the real thing has as many calories, if not more than the actual version. And cream cheese is already, that's about as fat boy as things can get. I haven't touched cream cheese in years. I've been clean for a while. I don't hate it. But remember when I went to it, remember when I went to that pop up my bagel, of course, unsalted.

I went to pop up when I went to pop up bagels to try it and they just hand you bagels in a bag with a tub of cream cheese. And I was like, this place is fucking disgusting. Like, get me out of here. Were these small bagels? Was it a rip and dip?

It was a rip and dip, but they weren't super Montreal style,

which is the only place I've ever ripped and dipped,

which is where it's appropriate.

Yeah. bagels was it a rip and dip it was a rip and dip but they weren't they weren't super montreal style

which is the only place i've ever ripped and dipped which is where it's appropriate yeah no people seem to like doing the smaller bagels like a bagel buy it or a or garlic knot size and then you dip it in you know what i want to go to all my new yorkers will know heaven's hot bagel on houston and like Ridge Street,

they got,

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