95. The History of Putin's War

Empire

Jack Davenport

History

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🗓️ 7 November 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine on 24th February 2022, but how did we get to this point? After the brutality of the Second World War, Ukraine was completely under the control of Moscow. Then in the 1980s, with Chernobyl as the catalyst, the Ukrainian nationalist movement regained momentum and on 24th August 1991 declared independence. This was never accepted by Russia and all the tension, discord, and conflict since then has led us to the devastating war of today. Listen as William and Anita are once again joined by Pulitzer-winning historian Anne Applebaum to discuss the history of Ukraine from the Second World War to today. For bonus episodes, ad-free listening, reading lists, book discounts, a weekly newsletter, and a chat community. Sign up at https://empirepod.supportingcast.fm/ Twitter: @Empirepoduk Email: [email protected] Goalhangerpodcasts.com Producer: Callum Hill Exec Producer: Jack Davenport + Neil Fearn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:15.1	W. Empire pod UK.com. Hello and me William Durumpel.
0:34.4	We are in the thrall of our special guest today, Anne Applebound
0:39.2	Pulitzer Prize-winning historian.
0:41.6	And we sort of left off part one which of course we spilt into two
0:45.3	parts because you're too interesting to let you go but we got to the end of the
0:49.6	famine and we're in the sort of now we're heading towards the late 1930s, a famine that Russia refuses to,
0:56.7	or the USSR or the Soviets or the Bolsheviks refuse to acknowledge is a famine and talk about.
1:03.4	With 4 million dead, even up to 5.
1:07.6	Yeah, it could be higher.
1:08.5	But the Second World War is on the horizon.
1:12.0	Tell us about how, you know, the on the
1:15.0	Soviet entry into that particular battlefield centers around Poland and Ukraine.
1:21.0	So when Poland is invaded in September of 1939 it is in fact
1:25.3	invaded twice. The Germans invade on September the 1st and the Soviet Union
1:31.4	invades on September the 17th.
1:33.8	This is the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact.
1:37.0	Right. There has been a pact between Hitler and Stalin and they have they come to an
1:41.1	agreement and they're various different things they, but one of them is the division of Poland.
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