Hi, Latter Day struggles, friends and fans.

We know that navigating a faith crisis can feel overwhelming, especially when it impacts our closest relationships, our parents, our partners, and our kids.

That's why Valerie has created two online self-paced classes to help.

The first is a couple's guide to faith crisis and expansion.

This class is here for a partner

or couple who want to navigate faith shifts with mutual respect and deeper connection. Next is

a family's guide to mixed faith parenting. This class offers tools to help parents develop

greater harmony and understanding when belief differences arise within our families. Both classes are

packed with helpful tools and perspectives that can

give you hope and a way forward. So if you're looking for a little guidance on this,

visit laddarday struggles.com to learn more. And now let's start the show.

Hello, everybody. Welcome to Latter Day Struggles. This is your host, Valerie, and I am grateful to have everyone here today listening in on what I think is going to be a really interesting and fun and thought-provoking series. And for this event, I have Brandon Patrick with me, my good friend, my therapist colleague. How are you today, Mr. Brandon Patrick?

I'm good, Valerie. Thanks for having me back. Yeah, I love having you on the show. We have so much

fun talking together. And when I reached out to him and asked if he was interested in this topic,

he said, well, how many days do we need to set up for this? Yes. Yes. It's a big topic.

Yes, it is. One that's been on my mind, in my heart, for a good little while, honestly,

since I started, well, it's been something that I've been interested in for a very long time,

but it has really been really on my mind in the last several months since I started these faith expansion

groups because I'm noticing a phenomenon over and over and over again, which is there's

something already fundamentally painful about being in faith crisis or expanding one's faith.

And then if you layer on top of that,

one's fear, one's anguish, and the distress that comes when a partner is not on board with

...