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The Art of Manliness

#95: Following Your Curiosity With Brian Koppelman

The Art of Manliness

The Art of Manliness

Society & Culture, Education, Philosophy

4.714.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2015

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Brian Koppelman is a man of many hats- music executive, screenwriter, and now podcast host. I talk with Brian about career trajectories in the modern economy and how having a set career path at the beginning of your career just doesn't work very well. Instead of having a rigid plan, Brian argues that we should instead tenaciously follow our curiosity while developing skills that will open up new doors. Brian gives concrete examples from his own career of following his curiosity. We also discuss the importance of hard work, learning to deal with failure and rejections, and what Brian has learned about men from writing films.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Let's go.

0:16.2

Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

0:19.9

Well, today on the show we have Brian Coppillmann and Brian is a man of many hats.

0:25.1

He started off his career in the music industry, discovered Tracy Chapman, then he switched

0:29.3

over to screenwriting and he's written films like Rounder, Solitary Man, Oceans 13,

0:35.0

Walking Tall, Runaway Jury has also produced several other films.

0:38.6

Currently, he has a podcast on Grantland called The Moment where you interview all sorts

0:43.8

of different people.

0:44.8

Definitely recommend you go check it out.

0:47.3

And today on the show, I brought Brian on because we talk about, I know a lot of you guys

0:51.4

are young guys just starting off your career and there's this idea or myth that you

0:54.9

have everything figured out before you start your career.

0:58.8

And Brian's a perfect example of that's not necessarily the case.

1:02.2

The key to a successful career is not knowing every step you're going to take.

1:06.2

It's acquiring skills that will open up new opportunities to you as they come up that

1:10.9

wouldn't be open to you otherwise if you didn't have those skills.

1:13.6

We also talk about how to handle setbacks, rejection, failure because he's faced a lot

1:17.8

of it as a screenwriter.

1:19.2

We talk about his creative process, his writing process.

1:22.0

I know a lot of you are creative types.

1:25.2

We talk about what he does to get the muses or get the creative juices flowing.

1:30.3

And then we also talk about what he's learned about being a man from writing films.

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