Hey, everybody. This is Ellen Weatherford. I'm here as usual with just the zoo of us. I'm excited today to talk to, this is not necessarily a new friend because we've spoken before. This is Dr. Janice of on Kistin. Say hi, Janice.

Hello. Happy to be here. Happy to see you again.

Of course. So I say that we've spoken before because you do a podcast called Geekoscopy, which is a really,

really fun podcast.

And I was on to talk to you.

I guess I was last year, wasn't it?

I think so, yeah.

It was a while ago.

Yeah.

So we've spoken before.

And while we were on that call, you mentioned that you were a marine biologist and you work on estuaries in South Africa.

Can you tell us a little bit about your work and how you got into it?

Yeah, so I like to call myself kind of a marine and estuarine eco-physiologist, especially with animals.

That sounds really cool.

Yeah, I have to niche it down quite a bit because, like, calling myself a marine biologist

probably puts images in people's minds about like dolphins and whales and stuff.

And I don't study anything closely related to dolphins and whales.

I'm on the other side of the genetic tree closer to the invertebrate side.

But essentially, what I've enjoyed doing or have been interested in during my research career

is looking at how the changes in the environment

affects animals' health, essentially, its physiology.

I have looked at things like how metal toxins in the water, like copper or zinc, affect

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