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participation may vary subject to availability hey everybody welcome to the show. This is the Other People podcast, a weekly program

featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. I'm Brad Listy and I'm in Los Angeles.

It's good to be with you. I appreciate you listening. Hope you're doing okay out there. Happy holidays.

If that's your thing, don't forget to subscribe wherever you listen. You can also subscribe on YouTube, follow me on social media, blue sky, Instagram, and TikTok. So my guest today is Tony Tula to Moody, author of a new novel called Rejection.

Rejection is like such a neurotic process because, you know, especially if it's something that you really want, like a person, for example, and you put yourself out there, make yourself vulnerable to, you know, make some kind of proposition to them romantically.

And then they say no.

Then immediately the first thing that's going to come to your mind is, well, why?

And this puts you in the

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