Welcome to Syntax. We got Ricky Hanlon on today. He is one of the core devs behind React, and we got him on today to talk about some of the new stuff in React, what's going on with it. Some of like the more, I'm going to say like modern React, you know, we're talking about transitions and view transitions, maybe some suspense and hopefully some of the new

performance stuff that they've been been cooking on the dev tool stuff he was showing me early i don't

sure if he's going to show us that or not but i'm pinning him till right now some really cool stuff so

welcome rickie thanks for coming on yeah thanks for having me i'm real excited yeah and also i say, before we start getting into anything technical, I am going to say you're going to have to leave the show because you have a bunch of Ohio State stuff behind you. And I am wearing an Ann Arbor, Michigan t-shirt today. So, unfortunately, we're sworn enemies just because of college football yeah well we are in the national

champions so yeah yeah i should not have said anything yes yeah especially this season yeah i went to a

cfl game like canadian football game uh this weekend and like there was like 20,000 people there and like I'm pretty sure

your high, these Americans high school games have more people come to it. It was kind of sad.

Cool. Give us a rundown of who you are and what you do. Yeah, so I'm Ricky. I work on the core team on React. I basically just think about

user interfaces all day and user experience. Right now I'm just planning for ReactConf, which is

coming up in a couple of weeks. I have a talk that I'm planning that I'm really excited about,

but I'm a little nervous about.

There's a lot going on that it's really hard to get the messaging right.

So I've been talking, and a lot of the theme for that talk is going to be transitions

and a lot of the like modern React features and what it looks like to build a modern React app.

So I've been doing talking a lot about transitions and seeing what people understand about them and

don't understand about them or how we can kind of clarify it.

So that's kind of my main focus right now.

Sweet.

Well, I would love to talk about that as well because I think like most people who use React,

like you can make a component, you can throw some state in there, you could probably make a mess with a use effect.

But there's this, like, whole, dare I say, like new or advanced API, which surrounds transitions, deferred, suspense, all of all of that stuff.

So what I was hoping to do is, is like let's understand what those things are.

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