94 - The Swiss Army Knife of Scaling | Polygon's Sandeep Nailwal & Mihailo Bjelic
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🗓️ 29 November 2021
⏱️ 104 minutes
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Summary
Polygon is the Swiss Army Knife of Scaling. With a suite of scaling products, Polygon is pushing in many directions to scale out the Ethereum ecosystem.
On the heels of the 'Abandoning Ethereum' twitter drama, Sandeep and Mihailo from Polygon come on the podcast to discuss how Ethereum is, in fact, not abandoning its users.
A ton has happened in the world of Polygon in the six months since they were last on the show, including a partnership with DraftKings and massive leaps into the Metaverse.
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Topics Covered:
0:00 Intro
6:00 Sandeep & Mihalo Return
8:20 Not Abandoning Ethereum
15:27 Adoption of Ethereum
24:06 On Maximalism
29:52 A Portfolio of Chains
37:47 The Mission
44:50 Tokens & Unifying Forces
49:42 Is Polygon an ETH Killer?
54:33 Polygon vs Alt Layer 1’s
1:04:40 Checkpointing to Ethereum
1:08:53 Bridges & Sidechains
1:18:00 Facts & Tribalism
1:22:50 zkRollups & Miden
1:29:12 Apps & DraftKings
1:34:00 On-Ramp to the Metaverse
1:37:09 The Roadmap
1:42:10 Closing & Disclaimers
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Resources:
Sandeep on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/sandeepnailwal?s=20
Mihailo on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/MihailoBjelic?s=20
Announcing Polygon Miden:
https://twitter.com/0xPolygon/status/1460609713922457606?s=20
Polygon Metaverse:
https://twitter.com/MihailoBjelic/status/1456091349745295362?s=20
Modular Blockchains:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjxyjgWiqLE&t=3276s&ab_channel=Bankless
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance. |
| 0:11.5 | This is how to get started, how to get better, and how to front run the opportunity. |
| 0:15.3 | This is Ryan Sean Adams. |
| 0:16.3 | I'm here with David Hoffman, and we're here to help you become more bankless. |
| 0:20.8 | David, I feel like this is a long overdue conversation, it's been a long time since we |
| 0:24.8 | had Polygon in the podcast, and they've been doing a lot over the last like nine months |
| 0:30.6 | or so since we talked to them, so yeah, fantastic episode with Sandeep and Mahalo, who are the |
| 0:36.3 | co-founders of Polygon, which is like a Swiss Army knife for scalability on Ethereum. |
| 0:41.6 | What were some of your takeaways? |
| 0:43.2 | Yeah, this is coming right on the heels of all of this Twitter drama that has happened |
| 0:48.3 | last weekend, and that definitely set some of the context of some of the conversations |
| 0:52.4 | that we had. |
| 0:53.9 | We really drilled down into the differences between, there's a lot of chains out there |
| 0:58.2 | that are forks of Geth, Geth, one of the original Ethereum L1 clients, Avalanche is a fork |
| 1:03.0 | of Geth, Spine and Smart Chain is a fork of Geth, Polygon is a fork of Geth. |
| 1:06.8 | What makes these things similar? |
| 1:08.3 | What makes these things different, and so we go into the differences between the security |
| 1:12.6 | models for these things, and overall talk about the, in addition, completely separate from |
| 1:16.9 | that, the long term vision of Polygon, where I believe Ryan, you called it a portfolio |
| 1:21.6 | of scaling solutions rather than a single individual scaling solution, and also talking |
| 1:26.6 | about the whole draft kings becoming a validator on Polygon, the future of ZK roll up tech |
| 1:32.6 | on Polygon, and overall just the future of the entire portfolio as a whole. |
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