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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

94. The Risk of Living Under a White Sky with Elizabeth Kolbert

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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Business, Policy, Science, Society & Culture, Finance, Energy, News, Environment, Climate, Current Affairs, Green, Planet, Society

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

With CO2 in the atmosphere now reaching levels 50% higher than when humanity began large-scale burning of fossil fuels during the industrial revolution, time is running out and some ecosystems are on the brink of collapse.

In light of this, some scientists and engineers are asking the question, can we act in time to save them? What do we do if we cannot reduce emissions in time? What tools will we have to save humanity?

This week we talk to Elizabeth Kolbert, Pulitzer-Prize winning author, activist, The New Yorker journalist, about her latest book Under a White Sky, a fascinating work that is asking the big questions: having meddled so much in our natural ecosystems, are we now able to save them and ourselves from the devastating effects of climate change? What form will these interventions take? Are the proposals such a genetically modified coral or solar geoengineering even possible? Will our sky be white?

Join us for a delightfully sobering conversation.

And stick around later in the show for a musical performance from Saunder Jurriaans!

Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!

Thank you to our guest this week, Elizabeth Kolbert!

 

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In 2015, Elizabeth wrote a phenomenal article on Christiana in The New Yorker. Highly recommended reading!

 

Grab a copy of Elizabeth’s new book, Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future!

 

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Books by Elizabeth Kolbert

 

Our musical guest this week is Saunder Jurriaans!

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Check out Saunder Jurriaans’ debut album ‘Beasts’

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Outrageant Optimism. I'm Tom Riviccarnack.

0:16.0

I'm Cristiana Fiegert.

0:18.0

And I pulled the concern. This week we talk about the impacts of climate change in Australia

0:23.6

and in the Himalayas. And we discuss recent new data on the concentration of greenhouse

0:28.6

gas emissions in the atmosphere. Plus we speak to Elizabeth Colbert, Activist, New Yorker

0:34.2

Journalist and author of the recent book Under a White Sky. And we have music from Sonder

0:39.6

Urians. Thanks for being here.

0:48.9

So we have many important and exciting issues to get to this week but I just wanted to bring

0:52.8

one data point before we delve into them. I've been paying quite close attention to the

0:56.0

Twitter feed of our good friend, Alok Sharma, friend of the podcast and recent guest.

1:00.5

And let's see, about a week ago, he had a lovely picture of you, Cristiana. You and him

1:05.0

having dinner together somewhere in Costa Rica. It looked like a lovely evening. And then

1:08.8

since then, his feed has taken a distinctly Costa Rican turn. There was one just a couple

1:12.9

of days ago where he says, brilliant to hear ideas and innovation on climate action from

1:17.0

carbon neutral Costa Rica. I encourage all friends around the world to follow Costa Rica's

1:21.5

climate leadership. What did you talk about at that dinner? You seem to have really turned

1:25.4

him into one of these Costa Rican advocates.

1:27.5

Well, it's not hard to do that, is it Tom? I mean, as we know on this podcast, Costa Rica

1:34.6

does happen to be a wonderful country. And now he knows that for himself because he was

1:41.5

here for, I think, 24, maybe even 48 hours. So thank you so much to the incoming president

1:49.8

of COP26 for, it was a very long trip for him. He had to fly through the United States

1:56.3

to Costa Rica and then back to London. So our gratitude to him for coming here and seeing

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