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Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

939: Creator of Vite: Evan You

Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

Wes Bos

Tech News, News, Technology

4.91.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Scott and Wes sit down with Evan You, creator of Vue, Vite, and VoidZero, to dig into the future of frontend tooling. From the speed of Rolldown to why he chose Rust, they explore the evolution of developer experience, bundlers, and what’s next for the web. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 00:31 Who is Evan You? Vue.js. Vite. Void0 01:19 Making the shift from UI to Toolchains. 02:37 How aesthetics contributed to the success of Vue and Vite. 05:26 Adding Rollup plugins to the Dev Server. 07:31 Brought to you by Sentry.io. 07:56 Rollup and Rolldown explained. 09:29 NAPIRS. 10:02 Why Rust and not Go? SWC, OXC. 12:04 Rolldown’s speed and performance. OXC Allocator. 15:09 Dealing with massive buildtimes. 17:42 How has the transition been? 20:34 Why do we even need a bundler? 23:25 Vite’s superior developer experience. 26:01 Fullstack Vue? 31:45 Node and Vite’s relationship. 35:41 Wes’ wishlist. vite-dir. 37:28 Hot takes. 37:37 Would Next be better with Vite? 41:09 Thoughts on React Server Components. 43:40 Thought on Remix 3. 46:22 Tell us about Void0. 51:36 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs. Sick Picks Evan: Laravel Lamborghini Shaped Stress Toys Shameless Plugs Evan: Viteconf, Vite, CultRepo. Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

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0:00.0

Welcome to syntax. Today, we have the goat. The man who has made web development easier for the entire world, probably kept people in the career before they had RageKit. We have Evan Yu on. He's a creator of view, creator of Vite, which probably everybody listening to this podcast has used many, many times,

0:23.8

and it probably powers many of your businesses. So, stoked to have them on. Welcome, Evan.

0:28.8

Thanks for coming on. Yeah, excited to be here. So real quick, before we get into it,

0:33.5

for the like six people who haven't done it, give us the introduction of who you are and what

0:38.8

you do and kind of your background.

0:41.1

Sure, yeah.

0:42.5

So I had been a independent open source developer for over a decade, like since 2015-16-ish.

0:53.0

Two years ago, I founded a company called Voice Zero,

0:56.6

which is centered with the mission to build open source tool chains for JavaScript.

1:04.9

Yeah, before that, I created View, Veed.

1:09.1

Probably some people use it.

1:11.3

Some people know it.

1:12.3

But yeah, now I'm mostly focusing on voice zero and the feed side of things.

1:18.9

Yeah.

1:19.1

I think that one of the interesting things for me was that you were primarily known as like a framework

1:25.6

author prior to Viet.

1:29.8

Did you see yourself making that change from working on the UI code to tool chain?

1:37.5

Not really.

1:38.8

So I would say a lot of the decisions of like what do I do next? just kind of I never really planned it ahead of time.

1:48.0

Like before I started even doing JavaScript development, I thought I was going to be a designer.

1:54.0

I wanted to be a designer and then after I designed some stuff I was like, I want to actually build it, but I couldn't find anyone to build it for me.

2:02.5

So I had to learn how to build it myself.

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