938. Kerry Howley
Otherppl with Brad Listi
Brad Listi
4.8 • 554 Ratings
🗓️ 3 September 2024
⏱️ 74 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The Philly Cheese Stack is back at McDonald's and it's still intensely cheesy. |
| 0:04.0 | Imagine the cheesiest thing ever. Now cover it in cheese. Add two beef patties, cheddar cheese sauce, crispy onions and even more cheese. |
| 0:10.0 | The Philly Cheese Stack. Did we mention it's cheesy? |
| 0:13.0 | Available until the 16th of March, 2026 from 11 AM. |
| 0:17.0 | Fees applied to delivery orders. Price and participation may vary. Subject to availability. |
| 0:20.0 | Hey, where is there? Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Other People podcast, a weekly program |
| 0:31.1 | featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. I'm Brad Listy here in Los Angeles. |
| 0:40.7 | Thanks for tuning in. I appreciate it. Don't forget to hit the subscribe button wherever you listen. You can also subscribe on YouTube. Follow me |
| 0:47.0 | on social media, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, and Blue Sky. |
| 0:55.1 | So my guest today is Carrie Howley, |
| 1:00.0 | author of the book Bottoms Up and the Devil laughs. |
| 1:05.4 | What was interesting to me about the vastness of the deep state is how the deep state doesn't |
| 1:10.3 | even know itself, right? |
| 1:11.9 | Like, it's so large that no single mind can possibly understand all of it. |
| 1:17.8 | There's nobody at the top who like knows what's going on. |
| 1:20.4 | It's like it's like life or like nature. |
| 1:23.6 | Like it's so large and complex that there are pieces of it that are completely unknown to people at the very, very, very top. |
| 1:33.3 | And so I think that's kind of interesting. It's like this, it has these tentacles that no one can even see. |
| 1:39.3 | All right, that was Carrie Howley, author of Bottoms Up and the Devil Laughs, |
| 1:45.6 | now available in trade paperback from vintage. |
| 1:49.6 | Bottoms Up and The Devil Laughs was a New York Times top 10 best book of 2023. |
| 1:56.8 | It was also named one of the best books of that year by The New Yorker magazine, Vanity Fair, and The New Republic. |
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