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Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

931 | The Sandy River Spey Clave and The Oufitter's Camp Cookbook with Mia Sheppard

Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Dave Stewart

Hobbies, Leisure, Sports, Wilderness

4.7530 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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#931 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/931 

Presented by: FishHound Expeditions, Pescador on the Fly, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Gallatin River Lodge

Sponsors: https://www.wetflyswing.com/sponsors/     

Mia Sheppard has spent decades guiding and outfitting across the Pacific Northwest through Little Creek Outfitters. From steelhead rivers like the Deschutes and Grande Ronde to multi-day rafting adventures, she's built a career around rivers, community, and outdoor culture.

This episode covers the return of the Sandy River Spey Clave, Dutch oven camp cooking, the changing landscape on the John Day River, and a few classic stories from the river that longtime steelheaders will appreciate.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/931   

Transcript

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0:00.0

What happens when a legendary river event disappears and then someone decides to bring it back?

0:06.7

Today we're talking about the return of the Sandy River Spakelave, what it takes to rebuild

0:10.7

something like this from the ground up, and how it's creating a space where anglers can

0:15.0

actually learn, connect, and improve fast. Mia Shepard from Little Creek Outfitters is back on

0:20.6

the podcast to walk us through

0:21.8

the clave, her guiding life, and a new project that might surprise you, a Dutch oven camp cooking

0:26.8

cookbook built around years on the river. Today we're going to discover what makes a clave

0:31.8

different from any other fishing event out there, how beginners can show up and start improving

0:35.9

right away. We're going to find out how

0:37.8

Mia balances guiding events and everything else that's on her plate. And we're going to get a few

0:43.9

killer Dutch oven cooking recipes that are going to upgrade your next camping trip. All right,

0:51.7

if you want to find Mia, you can check them out at Little Creek Outfitters.com.

0:55.4

Connect on Instagram as well.

0:57.5

All right.

0:57.8

Let's get into it. Here she is. Mia Shepard. How you doing, Mia? I'm doing great, Dave. Thanks for having me. Yeah, yeah. This is going to be a fun one to catch up. We were just kind of chatting off here a little bit about how time flies and, you know, six years goes by like that.

1:12.7

We've done some episodes with you.

1:14.2

It was a while ago. You and Marty were on back in the day and you did one recently within the bucket with Brian. So we'll have links to those in the show notes. But I want to get caught up on, you got a couple of things going, this new cookbook I'm really excited about because there's nothing better than, you know, cooking the way

1:28.4

you talk. It looks like it's going to be all Dutch oven, right? That's kind of the focus. So we'll talk about that today. And then the spakelave you got going, of course, you're guiding. How do you keep track all this? How do you stay without freaking out with all the stuff you got going? Oh my gosh, that's a really good question because I do freak out. Marty could attest to that.

1:47.0

But the last four months, I spent a lot of time in the gym and the last two weeks I've been out hunting turkey and Morales and just staying really active.

1:58.2

And I have a very organized Google Calendar. Google Calendar is definitely my

2:03.5

friend and it's something that, you know, Marty, Marty has his own own little account and we can

2:09.4

all share what we're doing and it works really well. Yeah, it does. Google is good for that. Nice.

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