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93. Infiltrating true crime underworlds - Sean Williams

heretics. | andrew gold

Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.4968 Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2022

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Have you ever wanted to know about West Africa’s cocaine empire, how meth infiltrated a New Zealand biker gang, or the gangs controlling Haiti? Taking us along with him on a deadly and thrilling voyage to the world’s most dangerous underworlds of organised crime is journalist Sean Williams. Sign up on Apple Podcasts or http://patreon.com/andrewgold for the bonus bits. Sean Williams links: Underworld Podcast: https://www.underworldpod.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/swilliamsjourno Website: http://seanwilliamswrites.com Andrew Gold links: http://youtube.com/andrewgold1 http://instagram.com/andrewgold_ok http://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok http://andrewgoldpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And one of them stopped our car and pointed a gun right up, basically up my nose and he was just screaming at me to give him like $2 or something. I can't remember what it was.

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And my driver was like, you have to tell him to like get lost. I was like are you serious? I'll just give him everything. He's like no if you give him anything he'll take the lot so you've got to tell him to f off.

0:24.0

Hello loyal listeners it's me but I'm out in Buenos Aires at the moment so I'm just

0:30.3

talking to you from the roof of my girlfriend's house overlooking the cityscape of sprawling tower blocks all sort of white and lots of pools and dazzling reflections and incredible

0:48.7

shimmering heat it's about 40 degrees right. I thought I'd do this one outside to hear all the crickets chirping and butterflies fluttering and all the other weird and wonderful exotic noises associated with the Rio Plata down in Argentina.

1:06.0

Anyway, I thought this was quite an apt setting for this episode because we're going to take you

1:10.4

all around the world through the eyes of Sean Williams. Have you ever wanted to

1:14.6

know about West Africa's cocaine empire, how meth infiltrated a New Zealand biker gang, or what

1:20.8

about the gangs controlling Heitie?

1:23.0

Taking us along with him on a deadly and thrilling voyage to the world's most dangerous

1:27.4

underworlds of organised crime as journalist Sean Williams.

1:31.8

There's a coziness to this conversation. My girlfriend had been away visiting family in Argentina and I didn't want to catch COVID before my flight out here.

1:40.4

So I was pretty isolated and alone in the dark cold Bristol night.

1:45.8

Sean, who is based out of Berlin, my former city. I didn't own it. I mean I lived there.

1:52.2

Had been traveling through mainland Europe to get

1:54.5

home for Christmas encountering all sorts of roadblocks and problems getting home and here

1:59.2

in an episode recorded on Christmas Eve we two investigative journalists share a beer and trade war stories.

2:07.0

It just so happens that his stories involve having a child soldier pointing a gun in his face while mine are about pulling my

2:14.4

hamstring playing football and none of my teammates showing enough sympathy. I don't

2:19.6

often drink alcohol obviously I drink water enough to survive, but especially while working and

2:26.8

while one beer isn't really enough to get drunk, I think you can see the adverse effects

2:30.7

in my increasing efforts to Storytop. At another point in the episode Sean talks about being

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