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Today I am speaking again with the great Douglas Murray.

Douglas is an associate editor at the spectator, and he writes for many other publications.

Including the Sunday Times, Standpoint, and the Wall Street Journal. He's given talks at the

British and European Parliament as well as at the White House. He's a truly inspired debater.

I've never had the pleasure of being on a debate stage with him, but it would be an honor.

And he is the author of a wonderful new book which we discussed in the last podcast titled

The Strange Death of Europe. Immigration, identity, Islam. And at the outset of this podcast,

I went up addressing what is currently the most popular question on my Ask Me Anything page.

I was going to save that for my next AMA episode, but it just made more sense to work through it here

with Douglas. So here's the question. What are your thoughts regarding the Charlottesville incident?

Please address the many aspects, I either rioting, the media coverage, the individual groups

present, anti-Fah, BLM, Trump statements, etc. So Douglas and I get fairly deep into that

and related topics like identity politics, guilt by association, and then we finally move on to

the topics that have been left out of our prior discussion of his book, topics such as the source

of Western values, the problem of finding meaning in a secular world, and related issues.

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