It's time for episode 93 of the Clockwise podcast from Relay FM recorded Wednesday, June 24th, 2015.

Clockwise, four people, four technology topics, 30 minutes.

Welcome back to Clockwise, the tech podcast that heals all ills.

Asterisk, not legally binding.

I'm your co-host, Dan, and across the country from me, as always, is my co-host Jason's now.

Hi, Dan, it's always good to start a podcast with a disclaimer, I feel.

We are joined as we always are by two fantastic guests.

To my left is interface designer

christa mergan hi hi hi hello thanks for having me and to my left uh a return a return visitor

he is one of the many fine hosts of the rebound podcast and proprietor of the very nice

website it's mr john moles hi john hi john hi how are you well on this podcast host of the rebound podcast and proprietor of the very nice website. It's Mr. John Moltz. Hi, John.

Hi, how are you? Well, on this podcast, we talk about four technology topics, and since I introduced

this week's show, I'm going to kick it off. This weekend, there was a whole to do with Apple Music's

royalty payments during the trial period, and Apple reversing its decision.

But what I found most interesting about this is that it announced that policy reversal on

Twitter.

Eddie Q posted on Twitter Sunday evening, I believe, that they would be, in fact, paying

artists for the streams that were played during the free trial period.

And I'm fascinated by this from the position of, you know, having watched Apple for many years,

you know, I feel like people often say this would never happen if Steve Jobs were still around.

But I feel like this really is something that wouldn't have happened if Steve Jobs were still around.

So I'm kind of curious what this new, what you think the next step is in the new

...