They say the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist.

But among some Christians, he's accomplished another great trick.

He's convinced them that he and his demonic minions are around every corner.

Now scripture speaks of your adversary the devil who prowls around like a roaring lion seeking

someone to devour so it's foolish to act like the devil doesn't exist.

However, Christians can develop unhealthy behaviors and even put themselves in spiritual

danger if they start to obsess over the demonic and see it in things where it's not present.

So in today's episode I have a simple point I want to get across alongside my friend and colleague Jimmy Aiken.

It's not always demons.

What prompted this episode was a friend of mine who sent me images of a handbook

from a deliverance ministry that contained a long list of activities associated with the demonic.

Now some of the items on the list definitely put you in danger of demons like

devil worship. Others like abortion could have a connection to the demonic, but even if they didn't in a particular case, these are still bad things.

But some of these activities were neither demonic nor bad.

They included things like deja vu. Have we covered this topic before? Or martial arts like karate,

judo, and jugitsu. Now there may be a few gyms that promote eastern ancestor worship,

but there's nothing demonic about learning

martial arts in general. I even have a t-shirt with Jesus putting the devil in a chokehold

that says Jesus always has your back. My colleague Jimmy Aiken co-host a popular podcast called Jimmy Aiken's mysterious world.

I've had him on the show before to discuss all kinds of weird stuff, because these oddities

also fascinate me.

So I thought it'd be helpful to interview him in this episode

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