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How Long Gone

916. - Melissa Auf der Maur

How Long Gone

Chris Black & Jason Stewart / Talkhouse

Society & Culture

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2026

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Melissa Auf der Maur is a musician and bass player best known for bands like Hole and the Smashing Pumpkins. Her new memoir, Even the Good Girls Will Cry, is out next week. We chat with Melissa from her home in upstate New York about the new Apple laptop, Montreal vibes, Grimes and Elon, channeling the gods on stage, shooting a roll of film a day in the ’90s, Courtney writing “slut” on her stomach, the time MTV asked her to take The Verve to Tom & Jerry’s, when musicians make their best work at their most fucked-up, Canadian ayahuasca retreats, owning Bo Burnham on vinyl, and gently prodding around a Hole reunion one day, and getting back in the studio with Courtney. instagram.com/xmadmx twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

How long gone, a very, very rare Monday afternoon recording. It is your co-host, Chris Black, here.

0:26.1

It's the first spring day in New York. It is feral out there. People are eating in the streets.

0:32.3

They're drinking in the streets. They're walking fast. They're walking slow. They're taking it all in.

0:36.9

There's shirtless guys in the park.

0:39.1

There's old Asian people playing ping pong.

0:40.9

It's kind of a, the grab bag of what New York has to offer when the weather reaches this kind of, this kind of temperature, Jason.

0:48.0

Okay.

0:48.2

Do you think spring has officially sprung or is this just a little, little cock tease before we get another dump on you?

0:55.8

Based on my experiences as a resident and current weather patterns and global warming,

1:01.0

I'm going to say that this is merely a tease, a tickle, and that old men winter will return

1:09.3

in some way, shape, or form before it's all said and done.

1:12.5

And Mr. Sunshine can show us a smile.

1:14.6

Fabulous, Chris.

1:15.4

I'm happy for you.

1:16.9

I'm also happy for you.

1:18.9

Just wanted to congratulate you on the Dakota Johnson Calvin Klein ad dropping today.

1:24.7

That was a big for you?

1:26.0

Yeah, it was big in my household.

1:28.4

And also thank you to Alex for making that happen.

1:32.9

Yeah, she had a lot to do with that.

1:34.7

I just, look, Dakota Johnson has become sort of the hottest chick in the game,

1:40.3

and no one seems to be, it seems to be universally accepted.

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