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Today, on the show, Platonism. It's a term Tom often uses in a not-so-positive way,

so what is Tom's beef with Platonism? Well, your questions on that are coming up today.

So I want to say thanks to Zach, who got in touch about last week's episode about Tom's

New Galatians commentary, he said, such a phenomenally helpful episode to highlight some of the

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Welcome back to the show. We're going to be talking about Platonism today. Now that's a phrase that

crops up reasonably frequently in our conversations, Tom, but not everyone may be entirely familiar

with what you mean by it. So first of all, very quick primer on who Platon was and what you mean

when you use the term Platonism. Oh my goodness. Yes, this is really important. Platon himself

lived from 429 BC to 347 BC and he lived in Athens and he was a disciple of the great teacher Socrates.

Socrates, so far as we know, never wrote anything. Plato was one of those disciples who actually

wrote up a great deal that Socrates had done. There's an awful lot of debaters to how much

in Plato is actually what Socrates said and how much is Plato ruminating on it and producing a

cleaned-up version as it were. But we're in touch with some of the great minds of the ancient world

where we're reading Plato. Plato wrote a lot of things. What we have of his, because of course,

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