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People I (Mostly) Admire

91. Jane Goodall Changed the Way We See Animals. She’s Not Done.

People I (Mostly) Admire

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Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

The ethologist and conservationist discusses the thrill of observing chimpanzees in the wild, the value of challenging orthodoxy, and why dying is her next great adventure.

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I guess today Jane Goodall transformed our understanding of the animal world with her work

0:09.3

on chimpanzees. That was 60 years ago, but she's still working as hard as ever to spread

0:15.9

her message of hope.

0:18.0

Every time I tell a story, I'm actually living it and every time I live it, it takes me back

0:25.5

to who I am, how I began and what I want to do, and how lucky I have been that my story

0:33.0

has led me to the place where I am today.

0:39.0

Welcome to People I Mostly Admire with Steve Levitt.

0:44.8

Few people have lived a life as remarkable as Jane Goodalls, born in an era when women's

0:49.7

options were greatly limited, especially in scientific domains, she defied the odds, not

0:55.0

only making remarkable scientific contributions, but also becoming one of the most widely known

1:00.8

and admired people on the planet.

1:03.0

And how devoted is Jane Goodall to her classes, she's 88 years old, and despite the fact

1:08.1

she's got COVID, she insisted we go ahead with our conversation.

1:13.6

Wow, Jane, what a joy and an honor.

1:20.0

I happen to see a documentary about you.

1:22.1

Later on the time I started this podcast a little over two years ago, and we have been

1:26.2

hounding and harassing your people ever since trying to make this conversation happen.

1:32.1

It took persistence, but I'm glad they finally gave in and allowed you to talk to me.

1:36.8

Well, I've been so busy being virtual Jane that my time has been unbelievably hectic.

1:43.3

I've been busier during COVID than ever in my life before.

1:48.0

I'm now on the road again, but for two and a half years, I didn't have one day off.

1:53.6

There were no weekends, no holiday, including Christmas day, non-stop.

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