The following is a conversation with Jack Dorsey, co-founder and CEO of Twitter and founder and CEO of Square.

Given the happenings at the time related to Twitter leadership and the very limited time we had,

we decided to focus this conversation on Square and some broader philosophical topics

and to save an in-depth conversation on engineering and AI at Twitter for a second appearance in this podcast.

This conversation was recorded before the outbreak of the pandemic.

For everyone feeling the medical, psychological and financial burden of this crisis,

I'm sending love your way.

Stay strong, or in this together, will beat this thing.

As I'm aside, let me mention that Jack moved 1 billion dollars of Square equity,

which is 28% of his wealth, to form an organization that funds COVID-19 relief.

First, as Andrew Yang tweeted, this is a spectacular commitment.

And second, it is amazing that it operates transparently by posting all its donations to a single Google doc.

To me, true transparency is simple, and this is as simple as it gets.

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