I'm John Donvan, moderator of Intelligent Squared US. Join us online at IQ2US.org to

vote on the motion and keep the debate going. So the difference between going to

heaven someday and getting hit in the head with a hammer right now is that going

to heaven someday sounds so much better than getting hit in the head with a

hammer right now. But at least with the hammer you know that the hammer is real.

Science can see the hammer. Science can weigh it and take its measurements and

even cut it up into little pieces and put it into test tubes. But heaven, the

afterlife, science cannot see that. So does that mean that heaven is not as real

as the hammer? Or does it just mean that science and scientists don't know yet

how to find heaven, how to look for it? Well that sounds like the

makings of a debate. So let's have it. Yes or no to this statement. Death is not

final. A debate from Intelligent Squared US. I'm John Donvan. We have four

superbly qualified debaters, scientists all, but they divide on this issue.

Death is not final. We are at the Kaufman Music Center in New York City. As

always our debate will go in three rounds and then the live audience votes to

choose the winner and only one side wins. Let's meet our debaters and the team

arguing for the motion. Death is not final. Please ladies and gentlemen,

welcome Evan Alexander. And Evan in a way you are our founding story in this

debate tonight. You are an academic neurosurgeon. 15 years on the faculty of

Harvard Medical School. But in 2008 you got very very sick. You went into a coma

for seven days. Your brain effectively stopped showing signs of life in the

higher functions. And you came back and you said I was there. I saw it. I've seen

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