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Hello Gary

I Joe

thanks for coming man appreciate appreciate it. My pleasure.

The case against sugar.

Yeah.

This is, for me, this is a, I don't know how to put this any other way.

I've kind of consumed sugar most of my life until the last couple of years and I slowly sort of tapered off and about about a year ago maybe last February or so I just pretty much cut it all out except for the occasional

you know occasional dessert here or there. Infidently better quality of life I feel

much better I have more energy and then I started really getting into it, and then I came across your work.

And what I want to know is, first of all, how did you get involved in this, and how much resistance have you faced?

Okay, this being the sugar case?

Yes.

This being the whole obesity, diet, nutrition.

We can get into all of it, but the sugar one to me is absolutely fascinating when you go down I mean if you've seen that sugar

movie yeah yeah and I probably in it I think I think I think I'm one of the talking

cereal boxes oh okay right you know I watched it with my kids. I made my kids watch it and it's amazing when, you know, a six-year-old watches something like that and then they go, why is sugar and everything? You know, it's funny because my kids live with this all the time right so I mean we had just come back from spending the holidays with my

Our grandmother who pumps them up with sugar while we're there and there's something I could do with it.

Then we get back and I'm having them making my boy's dinner.

They're 8 and 11 and my wife's out.

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