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How Long Gone

904. - Converge

How Long Gone

Chris Black & Jason Stewart / Talkhouse

Society & Culture

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2026

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

We speak with Jacob Bannon, singer of Converge, a hardcore band that Chris and Jason have been fans of for years. Their new record, Love Is Not Enough, is out this week. We disagree about just about everything for the first 30 minutes, and then chat about The New Yorker's Joe Rogan piece, Kid Rock's Super Bowl performance, fanaticism and music streaming, Bandcamp percentages, 90s web design, Manscaped ads, how to fit four bands on one tour bus, sleeping in a Uhaul and eating canned corn for a month and the mentality that gives you later in life, and how he manages his physical media. instagram.com/converge twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

All right. How long gone?

0:20.4

All right. It's Tuesday, February 10 gone? It is...

0:20.8

All right. It's Tuesday, February 10th.

0:23.5

It's 11.45 a.m. here on the East Coast and Moneymaking Manhattan where the temperatures have mercifully risen to double-digit numbers.

0:32.0

It felt on the walk to the gym today when it was 25, it felt like I was in fucking Miami shirtless um which is a nice trick to

0:39.4

you know you play on yourself it's a gift really we take what we can get Chris we take what we can

0:44.1

get um we take what we can get so happy for you happy for you thank you we're up to 25 degrees

0:49.2

Fahrenheit did you have a good what what what day was it at the for you? What part of your body did you focus on?

0:56.3

Today was a lower. We did some back squats, some RDLs, Bulgarian split squats, leg press, lunges, calf raises, and then some reverse crunch finishers.

1:06.0

Wow. You remember all of this workout very well. You just recalled it as if it was off of a spreadsheet

1:11.7

or something i'm impressed i don't yeah yeah i don't look i don't know my middle name or my

1:15.8

parents birthdays but the importance the important stuff you kind of keep keep in the in the

1:20.9

front lobe glad you're getting those bulgarians going you know really good to pop that fat little

1:25.9

ass yours out huh so we're worst thing

1:28.2

what the one of the there's very few exercises i truly hate but the bulgarian split squat is one of

1:33.1

them and and i think up fair i think a lot of people would agree with me on that i don't think that's a

1:38.1

unique feeling it's not awesome it's not awesome but when you lock in it's not awesome when you lock in

1:43.7

it can feel really good it's true no it's true it's also and. But when you lock in, it can feel really good. It's true. No, it's true. And once I finally do lock in, it's going to be amazing. It's a balance issue. It's a balance issue for me and probably a lot of men. Especially ones that height mogg you. It does get more difficult, the taller you get. Unfortunately, I think we have to, I know it's one of the first or second times,

2:01.2

but I think we have to ban, Mogged on the program. All right, that was the last one. Lock it. I don't, I haven't read, there's a, there's a, in the bulwark today, there's a, a big story on, on Clavi, um, that I'm interested to get into. I have not had a chance to read it yet. But between that and the David Remnick story on Joe Rogan, I'll tell you what, the manosphere is eaten.

2:21.3

Yeah. that I'm interested to get into. I have not had a chance to read it yet. But between that and the David Remnick story on Joe Rogan,

2:19.5

I'll tell you what, the Manosphere is eaten.

2:34.6

Yeah, I mean, I don't know what the bulwark can tell me about clav that I don't already know. I think there's probably, no shade. There's probably actually a lot about clav that we don't know. Well, if we include you in the we, but I'm a, you know, I've been in the chat rooms.

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