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The History of the Christian Church

90-Taking It Further

The History of the Christian Church

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 790 Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2015

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

This episode is titled, Taking It Further.History, or I should say, the reporting of it, shows a penchant for identifying one person, a singular standout as the locus of change. This despite the recurring fact there were others who participated in or paralleled that change. Such is the case with Martin Luther and the Swiss Reformer Ulrich Zwingli. While Luther is the “historic bookmark” for the genesis of the Reformation, in some ways, Zwingli was ahead of him.Born in Switzerland in 1484, Ulrich Zwingli was educated in the best universities and  ordained a priest.  Possessing a keen mind, intense theological inquiry coupled to a keen spiritual struggle brought him to a genuine faith in 1516, a year before Luther tacked his 95 thesis to Wittenberg’s door.  Two yrs later, Zwingli arrived in Zurich where he spent the rest of his life. By 1523, he was leading the Reformation in Switzerland.Zwingli’s preaching convinced Zurich’s city council to permit the clergy to marry. They abolished the Mass and banned images and statues in public worship. They dissolved the monasteries and severed ties with Rome. Recognizing the central place the Bible was to have in the Christian life, the Zurich reformers published the NT in their own vernacular in 1524 and the entire Bible 6 yrs later; 4 yrs before Luther’s German translation was available.Zwingli didn’t just preach a Reformation message, he lived it. He married Anna Reinhart in 1522.In one important respect, Zwingli followed the Bible more specifically than Luther. Martin allowed whatever the Bible did not prohibit. Zwingli rejected whatever the Bible did not prescribe. So the Reformation in Zurich tended to strip away more traditional symbols of the Roman church: the efficacy of lighting candles, the use of statues and pictures as objects of devotion, even church music was ended. Later, in England, these reforms would come to be called “Puritanism.”But more than the application of Reformation principles, Zwingli’s bookmark in history is pegged to the Eucharistic controversy his teaching stirred. He was at the center of a major theological debate concerning the Lord’s Table. Between 1525 and 8, a bitter war of words was waged between Zwingli and Luther. During this debate, Luther would write a tract and Zwingli would reply. Then Zwingli would pen a treatise and Luther would reply. This went back and forth for 3 yrs. It was a war fought with pamphlets as the ammunition.Both sides rejected the Roman doctrine of transubstantiation—that the prayer of a duly authorized priest transformed the elements into the literal body and blood of Christ. Their disagreement centered on Jesus’ words, “This is My body.” Luther and his followers adopted the position known consubstantiation, which says Jesus is present “in, with, and under” the elements and taking Communion spiritually strengthens the believer.Zwingli and his supporters regarded this as an unnecessary compromise with the doctrine of transubstantiation. They said Jesus’ words had to be understood symbolically. The elements represented Jesus’ blood and body, and Communion was merely a memorial.  An important memorial to be sure, but the bread and wine were just symbols.The debate remains to this day.It should be noted that during his last years, Zwingli seems to have moved to a new position in regard to Communion. He came to recognize a spiritual presence of Christ in the elements, though reducing the idea to words is a proposition   far beyond the capacity of this podcast to do. This later position of Zwingli was the position of Philip Melanchthon, Luther’s assistant and spiritual heir.Following hundreds of years of tradition, Zwingli, along with many other Reformers, believed the State and Church should reinforce one another in the work of God; there should be no separation. That’s why the Reformation became increasingly political and split Switzerland into Catholic and Protestant cantons, and eventu

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0:00.0

Welcome to the History of the Christian Church, Season 1 with Lance Rolston.

0:16.0

This episode is titled Taking It Further.

0:19.4

History, or I should say the reporting of it, shows a

0:22.6

pension for identifying one person, a singular standout, as the locus of change. This, despite the

0:29.0

recurring fact that there were others who participated in or paralleled that change. Such is the case

0:34.7

with Martin Luther and the Swiss reformer Ulrich Zwingli. While Luther is the

0:39.4

historic bookmark for the Genesis of the Reformation, in some ways Zwingli was ahead of him. Born in

0:46.2

Switzerland in 1484, Ulrich Zwingli was educated in the best universities and ordained a priest.

0:52.7

Possessing a keen mind, intense theological inquiry

0:56.1

coupled to a keen spiritual struggle, brought him to a genuine faith in 1516. A year before Luther

1:03.7

tacked his 95 Theses to Wittenberg's door. Two years later, Zwingley arrived in Zurich,

1:10.1

where he spent the rest of his life.

1:11.6

By 1523, he was leading the Reformation in Switzerland.

1:15.6

Svigley's preaching convinced Zerick's city council to permit the clergy to marry.

1:21.6

They abolish the math and banned images and statues and public worship.

1:25.6

They dissolved the monasteries and severed ties with

1:28.6

Rome. Recognizing the central place the Bible was to have in the Christian life, the Zurich reformers

1:35.0

published the New Testament and their own vernacular in 1524 and the entire Bible six years later.

1:41.5

That's four years before Luther's German translation was available. Zwingli didn't

1:46.9

just preach a Reformation message. He lived it. He married Anna Reinhart in 1522. In one important

1:54.6

respect, Zvingly followed the Bible more specifically than Luther. Martin allowed whatever the Bible

2:00.4

did not prohibit. Zwingli rejected whatever

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