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No Stupid Questions

9. Why Is It So Hard to Be Alone With Our Thoughts?

No Stupid Questions

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4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Also: how do you avoid screwing up your kids? This episode originally aired on July 12, 2020.

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0:00.0

Thor, you've got 20 sharpened sticks leaning against the wall. Why do you need another one?

0:09.6

I'm Angela Duckworth. I'm Stephen Dubner. And you're listening to No Stupid Questions.

0:15.1

Today on the show, how often do you sit with your thoughts without any other form of stimulation?

0:21.4

You're just supposed to lie there on your mat with your own thoughts.

0:25.4

I fell sleep many times.

0:28.6

Also, how much influence do parents have over their children once they've hit adolescence?

0:34.4

They say, your kid said this to me.

0:36.9

It was such a thoughtful, considerate thing to say. And I'm like, my kid said that.

0:41.5

Who? What? Angela, let me ask you this. How comfortable are you being alone with your thoughts for an extended period of time?

0:54.0

I guess it depends on how extended you mean, but I can go for hours at least.

1:00.3

Not reading, not on your phone, not talking to anyone, just with your thoughts.

1:04.1

Just with my thoughts. Yeah, I would say hours. And by the way, I might be vastly overestimating.

1:08.5

If you ask me, when's the last time I sat in a room by

1:11.7

myself? When's the last time you sat in the room by yourself with your own thoughts for many hours?

1:15.9

I would say that the time that this happens to me most often is when I am going to get out of

1:22.9

bed in the morning and I find myself lying there thinking. And I think for that sort of activity,

1:32.2

it's probably more like 20 minutes. Okay, not three hours, but still, something substantial.

1:38.9

And on the spectrum then of people around the world, do you think that puts you at a deep extreme?

1:45.7

I don't even have to say, I think, because there's research on this Tim Wilson,

1:50.3

great psychologist, got really interested in Reverie, which is this state of daydreaming or

1:56.8

musing, but it's pleasant, right? So I think that's one of the key things about reverie

2:02.0

that you want to be alone with your thoughts.

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