This is the 10% happier podcast.

I'm Dan Harris.

Hey, everybody.

So many of us do so much suffering over the issue of time management.

I put myself firmly in this bucket, managing my time is one of the trickiest issues I face.

Many of us field pulled in a million directions, frayed and frazzled.

We try to prioritize and maybe it works for a little while, but then we fall behind inevitably

and then we're again left self-flagulating for being insufficiently productive.

It is a toilet vortex, to borrow a phrase from my friend Evelyn Tribbley, who borrowed

it from Nabaka, if I believe it's a toilet vortex that can make us very unpleasant to live

with, degrade the quality of our relationships, which then can reduce our capacity for time

management and then down you go.

I know this is a hugely resonant issue and not just for me because every time we do episodes

on this subject, the download numbers spike.

So much ink has been spilled on time management.

So many books have been written.

In fact, my guest today has written six of those books and her latest widdles down all

that she's learned over so many years of obsessing over time management to nine strategies

or nine rules, although she uses that word rules in a very loose way.

Laura Vandercam approaches the topic of time management from both personal experience

as well as research.

She was initially drawn to this subject matter and you'll hear her talk about this because

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