4.6 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 27 July 2020
⏱️ 63 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
John MacArthur wrote "A Biblical Case for the Church’s Duty to Remain Open." Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever, from 9 Marks ministries, responded. Jon analyzes the underlying issues involved and warns about the direction 9 Marks is heading in.
www.worldviewconversation.com/
Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/worldviewconversation
Subscribe:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/conversations-that-matter/id1446645865?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4
Like Us on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/worldviewconversation/
Follow Us on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/conversationsthatmatterpodcast
Follow Jon on Parler:
https://parler.com/profile/JonHarris/posts
Follow Jon on Twitter
https://twitter.com/worldviewconvos
Follow Us on Gab:
https://gab.ai/worldiewconversation
Subscribe on Minds
https://www.minds.com/worldviewconversation
More Ways to Listen:
https://anchor.fm/worldviewconversation
--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/worldviewconversation/support Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/conversations-that-matter8971/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyClick on a timestamp to play from that location
0:00.0 | Welcome to the Conversations that Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. We're going to have a short |
0:04.8 | episode but a chalk filled episode. It's going to be packed. We're going to talk about |
0:09.8 | 9 Marks Ministries. I'm going to have to talk a little fast because I don't a lot of time, but some things that happened over the weekend. John McCarthy |
0:16.2 | released a statement on Friday about Grace Community Church opening up, he's |
0:19.6 | asking other Christians to consider doing the same, And Jonathan Lehman from 9marks |
0:24.2 | Ministries responded on the 9marks website. And of course this led to then |
0:29.0 | Mark Devver and Phil Johnson having a little bit of a back and forth on Twitter and so I'm going to talk about that now why do I want to talk about this? |
0:37.6 | Here's the basic reason I was given nine marks material when I went to southeastern for seminary and a lot of |
0:45.3 | guys a lot of solid guys used nine marks material and I would say that I would |
0:49.7 | recommend it and I finally read nine marks of a healthy church. |
0:53.0 | If you now it's I guess five years ago or so six years ago and people had really talked it up to me and when I read it I was kind of like that's it But I think the reason I thought that was because I had grown up in a church |
1:05.1 | with pretty good polity, church polity, meaning the way the church was |
1:08.7 | structured, the way it functioned. |
1:11.0 | And for some people, this is revolutionary for them. They just never heard what the |
1:16.2 | Bible says a church should be or how a church should function. And so I know people that have |
1:21.0 | been very benefited from Nine Marks Ministries and I thank God for that that's great |
1:26.4 | But the thing that that concerns me and the thing that's concerned me for now a number of years |
1:30.9 | And it's little things here there. It's like almost not enough to do a whole episode on sometimes, but it's like things that I'm just like, |
1:37.6 | oh, that's not the greatest, you know. And now they're starting to accumulate. And I'm not going to remember all of them, |
1:42.8 | and I'm not going to give a laundry list, but I think it's time for me to just say, |
1:47.3 | we need to be very careful about some of the things 9 Marks puts out on politics and have a discerning eye at least if we read |
1:56.2 | stuff from 9 Marks on political issues. Doesn't mean I'm saying their church |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jon Harris, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Jon Harris and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.