You can't live life fully without embracing risk and that's something I want to model to the kids,

which necessarily means involving some risk in their lives.

Of course you try to minimize that and try to blanket it in your love and that's a safety net,

but I think a lot of people live too safely and for that

miss out on a lot of life's true richness. Welcome to A Better Life with Brandon Turner. That is me

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All right.

Before we get to everything else, you were on Rogan.

I've never interviewed somebody who's been on Joe Rogan before.

I don't think.

So what was that like?

How did that come about?

What was the Rogan experience?

Yeah, how did it come about? Well the rogan experience yeah how did it come

about well so i'd been on that alone show i don't know we'll get into that probably at some point

but in the course of being on that show i happened to kill a wolverine you know with an axe

pretty wild situation and there's this other popular hunting podcast called kaffaru cast and that

that guy had also shot a

Wolverine that year with his recurve he's like I'm probably the only person ever you know

to have done that got a Wolverine this year with a recurve and so all his listeners wrote in

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