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This is Ryan Sean Adams.

I'm here with David Hoffman once again,

and we're here to help you become more bankless.

David, I am super excited about our guest today and about the topic.

Can he tell us about it?

Mariano Conte, who I call the King Midas of Ethereum,

because everything he touches turns to Ether.

We all know and love Mariano Conte.

He is the head of smart contracts at the Maker Foundation.

He has been absolutely critical in the rollout of the Maker Dow system and he's been there from day one back when the

Maker Dow system was what they called Proto-Sai,

that's the Cy before the current-Sai,

which is the-Sai before the current die.

So he's been there all the way

in the history of Maker Dow.

The really cool thing about Mariano Conte in my opinion is that he is from

Argentina which is one of the many countries in the world that really needs

crypto as a as infrastructure for value management and just for living your life.

So at the same time that Mariano is living on crypto using crypto systems to support his personal

finances, he's also building the platform,

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