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The Owen Jones Podcast

9. Gary Younge: There is no 'good racism'

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

News, Government, News & Politics, Politics

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

The award-winning Gary Younge is one of Britain's most distinguished journalists. We talk about the upheaval in the US, whether Trumpism will live on, what role Black Lives Matter will play - and what hope there is for the left in the UK, too.


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0:00.0

Hey hey, Owen Jones here. Welcome to the podcast. Now I am really honored to have Gary Young,

0:13.8

one of, I would say, the preeminent columnists in the Western world. I've no Gary for a very

0:20.2

long time. I think he's kind of like the mentor of progressive columnists. I certainly

0:25.2

have always looked up to him when I aspired to be a writer. I suppose he was one of the people

0:31.2

I looked up to as a teenager in these suffocating times of there is no alternative. He was a bit of a

0:36.5

lifeboat. So I've got loads to talk to him about about white supremacy, about systemic racism in the

0:43.2

US, about Trumpism, about Black Lives Matter, about the struggles against injustice. What hope now

0:49.4

Trump has gone and what now in the age of Biden. Better housekeeping first. The new podcast is all

0:55.2

about offering an alternative to the corporate media, taking on injustice, speaking truth to power,

1:00.5

offering a bit of a ray of optimism and showing there's another way but also having some fun.

1:05.3

We've got loads of interviews, discussions, documentaries, feet to listen to. To expand and

1:09.8

offer more content, we need your support so anything you donate via the supporter function

1:14.5

in the podcast description is hugely appreciated. Or you can be a regular supporter on patreon.com,

1:20.5

4 slash 0 and 0.84. You've got a say there over who we speak to, what we talk about, what issues

1:26.7

we focus on. Whatever you do, please give us five stars on the show on iTunes. It just helps

1:32.4

boost the podcast, gets the word out, subscribe to the podcast and share the show. After all of that,

1:37.9

please listen to me chatting to that fountain of wisdom that is Gary Young.

1:47.0

Gary, welcome, welcome. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me.

1:52.2

No, big honor, big pleasure. Now I know you had the dreaded Rona recently, so you're now kind of,

1:58.8

you're recovered. And I'm back to the same ill health I was before I had Corona virus, yes.

2:05.4

Well, that's good to know that the old Gary, whatever, is back. Let's go straight into it.

2:12.2

Let's go straight into it. So we've just had this attempted far right insurrection

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