9. Gary Taubes — The Case Against Sugar
The Michael Shermer Show
Michael Shermer
4.3 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 22 January 2017
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
Among Americans, diabetes is more prevalent today than ever; obesity is at epidemic proportions; nearly 10% of children are thought to have nonalcoholic fatty liver disease. And sugar is at the root of these, and other, critical society-wide, health-related problems. With his signature command of both science and straight talk, Gary Taubes delves into Americans' history with sugar: its uses as a preservative, as an additive in cigarettes, the contemporary overuse of high-fructose corn syrup. He explains what research has shown about our addiction to sweets. He clarifies the arguments against sugar, corrects misconceptions about the relationship between sugar and weight loss; and provides the perspective necessary to make informed decisions about sugar as individuals and as a society.
This is a groundbreaking and eye opening expose that makes the convincing case that sugar is the tobacco of the new millennium, backed by powerful lobbies, entrenched in our lives, and utterly addicting, making us all very sick. As Katie Couric says, "This is required reading for not only ever parent, but every American." Gary Taubes is the New York Times bestselling author of Good Calories, Bad Calories and Why We Get Fat. His writing has appeared in the New York Times magazine, The Atlantic, and Esquire.
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| 0:00.0 | This is your host, Michael Sherman, and you're listening to Science Salon, a series of conversations |
| 0:10.4 | with leading scientists, scholars, and thinkers about the most important issues of our time. |
| 0:17.0 | The first book I read of yours was Bad Science on Cold Fusion. |
| 0:24.0 | So, and I want to get to that |
| 0:28.0 | the latter part of our dialogue about how science works, |
| 0:31.0 | you know, because this was such a classic study of why you should probably get your |
| 0:35.0 | experiments replicated before you hold the press conference to announce that you have solved |
| 0:39.2 | the world's energy problems. |
| 0:41.4 | This was Ponds and Fleischman's famous experiments that they ran in Utah |
| 0:45.0 | that seemed to show that you could essentially produce energy too cheap to meter and then it wasn't replicated. |
| 0:51.0 | So that was such a classic study. |
| 0:53.1 | Yeah. |
| 0:54.1 | They, it was actually being stolen from them. |
| 0:56.2 | So they considered that replication. |
| 0:57.8 | Oh, I see. |
| 0:58.8 | So there was a competing physicist at Brigham Young University who, |
| 1:03.0 | from their perspective, |
| 1:04.0 | was stealing their discovery, and if somebody's |
| 1:06.0 | stealing your discovery, it must be right. |
| 1:08.3 | Okay, well, all right, that's fair enough. |
| 1:10.4 | That was their motivation. |
| 1:12.1 | Yeah, okay, fair enough. But you know it. See that's a good example of how science works though. It got debunked by other scientists. |
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