any addiction is difficult to break free from.

And I just found myself there.

Even though I hated myself for doing it or for being tempted,

there were still one or two relapses,

which made me hate myself even more,

and then hit the reset button, of course, on the trust process.

But over time, I was able to get free once and for all.

Thank you. but over time, I was able to get free once and for all. Welcome to Family Life Today,

where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

I'm Dave Wilson.

And I'm Ann Wilson,

and you can find us at family life today.com.

This is Family Life today.

Well, I don't say this every time we have a guest in the studio.

You know what I'm going to say.

I love these guys.

You love, we both love these guys.

I mean, I hope other other guests don't hear us thinking that we're not saying we love that.

We love everybody that comes in. We'll sit and talk to you both for days.

Same with us. Same. We feel exactly the same. Not to throw the other guests under the bus,

but before we started, they did tell us, by far, you're not only our

favorite guests, you're the only guests that we like. No, they did. They did. I heard it. It's because

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