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Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

9/6/21 Clive Stafford Smith on Ahmed Rabbani and the Other Innocent Men Being Held at Guantanamo Bay

Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott Horton

News, Politics

4.8989 Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Scott interviews Clive Stafford Smith about a recent article written by his client Ahmed Rabbani. Rabbani has been in custody for 19 years without a single charge being brought against him. In 2002 he found himself in the hands of the CIA who allegedly believed he was a man named Hassan Ghul. But even after the real Ghul was captured and brought to the same prison Rabbani was being kept in, the CIA kept trying to extract information from Rabbani. Ghul cooperated and was freed. But Rabbani was sent to Guantanamo Bay where he remains today. Smith explains some of the difficulties facing him as he argues Rabbani’s case and sheds some light on how common his story really is. Discussed on the show: “The U.S. Has Held Me For 19 Years Without A Charge. I Have Just One Chance To Be Freed” (Huffington Post) The Senate Torture Report Clive Stafford Smith is founder of Reprieve, and is now director of his new non-profit the 3DCentre. He is the author of Bad Men: Guantánamo Bay and the Secret Prisons and Injustice: Life and Death in the Courtrooms of America. Follow him on Twitter @CliveSSmith. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt; Lorenzotti Coffee and Listen and Think Audio. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPGGqQ_c12o Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

All right, you guys, introducing Clive Stafford Smith.

0:04.0

He's a lawyer from Great Britain, from the outfit Reprieve,

0:09.6

where they represent the most wretched of refuse like those locked away at Guantanamo Bay prison.

0:17.2

Welcome back to the show for live. How are you doing sir?

0:18.9

Well, look, let me tell you first. When you say I represent the wretched of refuse, I don't represent you,

0:26.1

so it can't be that rich. Also, I've moved on from Reprieve, actually. I've founded founded Receive many years ago, but all founders should

0:34.8

piss off after a while. So I've moved on and set up a new charity now. Still work with Receive a lot, but

0:40.7

Oh, I see. The new charity is called the 3D center where we help young people to come up with some

0:47.2

passionate thing that they can spend the next 50 years during making the world a better place.

0:51.6

Great, the 3D center, you say?

0:54.6

Yep, 3D.org.

0:58.0

And even though I am in England,

0:59.8

I'm a true blue American.

1:01.8

I just want you to know that's the red is.

1:04.7

Originally from the UK you just still sound funny that's all but you're one of us now.

1:09.9

Can I just point out?

1:11.1

Yes.

1:12.1

You're accusing me of having an accent. It's my language. It's you that has the accent. I hate to break the news to you.

1:18.6

That's probably right. We perfected it though, like pizza, you know? Like Mexican food. Yeah, the poor Mexicans and Italians, you know, really have nothing to boast about enough to eat.

1:32.0

All right, well, we haven't come for the falafels and all of that stuff yet, but soon enough.

1:40.0

So yeah, and listen, by the way, we got to talk about this thing, which I'm sure you had a hand in getting published here by Ahmed Rabini, your client, published at the Huffington Post. The US has held me for 19 years without a charge.

1:57.0

I have just one chance to be freed.

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