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Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

9/26/25 Matthew Hoh on the Institutionalized War State and the Disgraceful David Petraeus

Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott Horton

News, Politics

4.8 • 989 Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In his first video interview, Scott brings Matthew Hoh on to talk about his initial reluctance to associate with the antiwar movement, the institutional pressure to keep the war in Afghanistan going, the horrific legacy of General David Petraeus and more.  Discussed on the show: The Best and the Brightest by David Halberstam A Bright Shining Lie by Neil Sheehan Bodyguard of Lies (IMDb) Matthew Hoh is associate director at the Eisenhower Media Network and formerly worked for the U.S. State Department. Hoh received the Ridenhour Prize Recipient for Truth Telling in 2010. Subscribe to his Substack and follow him on Twitter @MatthewPHoh For more on Scott’s work: Check out The Libertarian Institute:  https://www.libertarianinstitute.org Check out Scott’s other show, Provoked, with Darryl Cooper https://youtube.com/@Provoked_Show Read Scott’s books: Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/47jMtg7 (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com) Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan https://amzn.to/3HRufs0 Follow Scott on X @scotthortonshow And check out Scott’s full interview archives: https://scotthorton.org/all-interviews This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Roberts Brokerage Incorporated https://rrbi.co Moon Does Artisan Coffee https://scotthorton.org/coffee; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom https://www.libertyclassroom.com/dap/a/?a=1616 and Dissident Media https://dissidentmedia.com You can also support Scott’s work by making a one-time or recurring donation at https://scotthorton.org/donate/https://scotthortonshow.com or https://patreon.com/scotthortonshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen of the press have been less than honest, reporting to the American people what's going on in this country?

0:11.0

Because the babies are making it.

0:13.0

We're dealing with Hitler Revisited.

0:15.0

This is the Scott Horton Show, Libertarian Foreign Policy, mostly.

0:21.7

When the president doesn't, that means that it is not only...

0:24.5

We're going to take out seven countries in five years.

0:27.1

They don't know what the fuck they're doing.

0:29.3

Negotiate now.

0:31.4

End this war.

0:33.5

And now, here's your host, Scott Horton.

0:39.4

All right, you guys, welcome to the show. It's the Scott Horton show. And now in video,

0:45.4

we're catching up with the 21st century here. Check me up. And my first guest on this new version

0:50.2

of the same old show I've been doing for 22 years is the great Matthew Ho.

0:55.1

And you guys probably know that I'm not sure if you know or not.

0:58.8

Times change and times fly by.

1:01.6

Matthew Ho is the great whistleblower of the Afghan war of 2009.

1:07.9

He had previously been an officer in the Marine Corps.

1:09.8

And then he went to work for the State Department and they sent him to Afghanistan. And in 2009. He had previously been an officer in the Marine Corps. And then he went to work for the

1:11.1

State Department and they sent him to Afghanistan. And in 2009, of course, Obama was inaugurated

1:16.5

in January. And then that whole year saw this massive push by the Pentagon to escalate the Afghan war.

1:24.3

Matthew Ho said, you know what? I'm breaking ranks and I'm telling the truth. And in the

1:28.4

summer, I believe it was in August of 09, he spoke up and said, you don't have to do this,

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