9/24/21 Barbara Slavin on the True Winner of Iraq War 2

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Scott Horton

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🗓️ 26 September 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Scott interviews Barbara Slavin from the Atlantic Council. Slavin recently co-authored an article with Abbas Kadhim about how Iran’s influence in the middle east has grown substantially since the U.S. overthrew Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq. Slavin explains that the U.S. was more supportive of Iraq while they were engaged in a brutal war with Iran in the 80s, because the foreign policy establishment saw Iran as a bigger threat. Of course this changed in the 90s when George Bush Sr. launched a war against Iraq. And then there was the invasion in 2003 that disposed of Saddam. Scott and Slavin reflect on the ridiculous claims from that time arguing that regime change in Iraq would not hand Iran more influence, with some claiming it would weaken Iran by giving the U.S. leverage over the entire region. Discussed on the show: “Iran ‘won’ the war with Iraq but at a heavy price” (Atlantic Council) Bruce Riedel overheard Bush’s phone call days after 9/11 “After Sistani and Khamenei: looming successions will shape the Middle East” (Atlantic Council) A Clean Break Cheney 1994 interview Barbara Slavin is director of the Future of Iran Initiative at the Atlantic Council. Follow her on Twitter: @BarbaraSlavin1. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt; Lorenzotti Coffee and Listen and Think Audio. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	For Pacifica Radio, September 26th, 2021.
0:05.0	I'm Scott Horton.
0:08.0	This is Anti War Radio. All right to you guys welcome the show. It is anti-war radio. I'm your host
0:25.6	Scott Horton. I'm editorial director of anti-war.com and author of
0:30.2	Enough Already Time to End the War on Terrorism.
0:33.0	Find my full interview archive, more than 5,600 of them now going back to 2003 at Scott Horton.org, and follow me on Twitter at Scott Horton Show.
0:42.0	Introducing Barbara Slavin. and follow me on Twitter at Scott Horton Show.
0:42.8	Introducing Barbara Slavin,
0:44.9	she is director of the Future of Iran Initiative
0:48.1	at the Atlantic Council.
0:50.3	And I know what you're saying, but nah, she's cool. It's all right. Welcome back to show Barbara. How are you?
0:55.0	I'm fine. Thank you. Interesting introduction.
0:59.0	Yeah. I should have said and I meant to say just 10 seconds ago I thought to myself make sure
1:03.2	I mentioned that for many years you are a journalist for you p i correct
1:07.8	i started with u p i very few people know that but i i've worked at a bunch of other
1:12.3	places uh... since then.
1:14.0	Okay.
1:15.0	All right, so the Atlantic Council, they don't have the best reputation around here, but I've
1:19.0	always liked your work and especially on Iran, unlike everyone in Washington, D.C. who talks about Iran, you actually
1:27.0	know a thing or two about it, which is interesting and gives you a real leg up compared to your competition there.
1:36.0	So you have this really important piece with a guy named Abbas Kadim
1:41.0	at the Atlantic Council called Iran won the war with Iraq but at a heavy
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