Scott talks with journalist Michael Tracey about the politics behind America’s foreign policy. Tracey recently attended a conference put on by the America First Policy Institute. Many Trump-friendly right-wing populists have defined their foreign policy philosophy as being “America First” with mixed understandings of the historical context behind that phrase. In many ways, this camp has represented a shift away from foreign interventionism within the American Right, at least concerning the Middle East and Europe. However, at the conference, Tracey found mostly establishment Republicans spewing hawkish nonsense. He talks with Scott about how, in many ways, the Trump Presidency brought about all the downsides of having a President willing to stand up to the war machine but with none of the upsides.  Discussed on the show: “America First Hawks Admit US Weapons in Ukraine are Plunging Down a Black Hole” (Substack) “Transcript: Donald Trump Expounds on His Foreign Policy Views” (New York Times) Reclaiming the American Right by Justin Raimondo  America First Policy Institute “Guided by British special forces, Ukraine is escalating the 'deep battlespace' fight against Russia” (Washington Examiner) “Newt Gingrich's "outsider" act” (Salon) “Tea Party welcomes Newt to New York” (Salon) “Democrats and Republicans Pretend They Have Massive, Unbridgeable Differences So They Can Unite Seamlessly on War” (Substack) “A Review of NATO’s War over Kosovo” (Chomsky.info) Michael Tracey is a New York-based journalist. You can find his writing on Substack and follow him on Twitter @mtracey This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; and Thc Hemp Spot. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices