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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

9.13.24 CRU with Nancy Grace: Change Of Venue For The Bryan Kohberger Murder Trial

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime

4.4 • 696 Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2024

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum discuss the complexities of Brian Kohberger's murder trial, focusing on the recent decision for a change of venue. They explain how this impacts both the prosecution and the defense, and why such a move could be critical in preventing appeals. Nancy and Sheryl also share personal experiences from past murder trials, adding context to the challenges and emotional toll that legal proceedings take on victims' families, prosecutors, and even witnesses. 

Show Notes:

  • (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
  • (0:10) Latest on the Bryan Kohberger murder trial 
  • (1:00) The challenges of venue changes 
  • (6:30) International media's impact on the case 
  • (10:00) Fred Tokars case 
  • (14:00) Scott Peterson trial and other challenges
  • (15:00) The consequences of moving a trial 
  • (18:00) Nancy shares insights on the Duke Lacrosse case 
  • (21:00) Kohberger’s defense strategy under scrutiny
  • (22:30) Trial Delays and family reactions  

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

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X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Crime Roundup.

0:11.0

This morning, I am joined, as always,

0:14.0

by the Queen of True Crime herself, Nancy Gray's.

0:18.0

Morning, sunshine.

0:20.0

Well, I don't know about that I'm just thinking about

0:22.9

thinking about Brian Coburger and those I never used this phrase before Cheryl but

0:29.5

now that I've heard it I think it's correct I think Dr. Bethany Marshall said it first

0:35.2

dead eyes I don't know just just that look, and it's,

0:40.3

there's never a variation in that look. So he can change venue all he wants, which is a huge,

0:48.1

huge burden on the state. But I don't think it's going to affect the evidence. It may affect the presentation.

0:55.5

I mean, think about it, Cheryl.

0:57.4

When I would go to court for trial, for trial, I would get there super early in the morning.

1:03.8

I would have been up half the night worried and getting up early.

1:07.6

But can you imagine, just think, what if you were camping out in a tent outside the

1:12.2

courthouse? And that's where you stayed during the trial, because that's what it feels like

1:16.4

when you have a change of venue. You're not at home. Your family is far away. You had to bring

1:22.5

everything with you to go to battle. It's very, very hard, and the defense knows that.

1:30.0

Now, this is what was, well, there were so many interesting things, but it was cited

1:35.2

in court as to support the change of venue about the, quote, international press

1:41.6

and media focused on the Koeberger murder trial.

1:45.3

So moving from Moscow like Costco to Ada or wherever they're going to move,

1:52.9

how are you going to escape international media by driving a couple of hundred miles?

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