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This is the Todd and Tyler Radio Empire. Meeting Joe Dombrowski with us, Funny Bone, tonight, and tomorrow night, two soes each night. There are some tickets available for all four, but they'll sell quick, so get them. Funny guy hanging out with this morning. Joe, I'm always of the attitude that I don't like to believe everybody,

when people say stuff bad about somebody unless I actually know them. hanging out with this morning. Joe, I'm always, I'm always of the attitude that I don't like to

believe everybody, when people say stuff bad about somebody, unless I actually know them personally.

Yeah. And you were on, Ellen is a friend, Ellen was your own Ellen. And I never hated her.

And I know there was all this crap about her. Defender. I mean, it's not about defending her. But this is what I will tell you. I'm saying that she was difficult to work with. That's the impression I got. Right, right, right. Everything I'm about to say is my personal experience. And so whenever I tell this to people, I go, just because mine was positive doesn't mean somebody else's could have

been negative. True. So, but she was a gem. She was so cool and nice to me. Right. And it instilled such

awesome wisdom. When I did the show, they very much wanted to paint me as like just this

wholesome teacher and everything I did was an accident, but I was not so I just want a hole in a heart

heartbeat, right. Right. Right. Right. But they didn't want me to talk about comedy at all. And I was like, no. And I was like, that's a, because at the time, I was just like, I kind of had a little bit of a reputation in comedy locally in Detroit. And that was about it. But I knew I could turn this into something.

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