been a somber 20 years since the events of September 11th, 2001, when the national trauma took

place in the United States. But as I noted recently in an op-ed for the 20th anniversary of 9-11 for

press news, many in the U.S. and even prominent voices and independent media continue to avoid

any sort of reckoning about the more than questionable official story of 9-11.

Fewer still even bothered to consider the case of the 2001 anthrax attacks, which followed shortly thereafter.

The collective failure of the American public to reconcile the true nature of these extraordinary events 20 years on

has muddled our present and today

threatens our future, as many have again become enslaved by the official story of the newer

and different yet similar crisis currently unfolding around us. In order to better reflect on

the events that took place 20 years ago and what they mean for today. I am joined today by Graham McQueen.

Graham is a retired professor for McMaster University where he founded the Center for Peace Studies.

He subsequently became the co-editor of the Journal of 9-11 Studies and went on to write the 2001 anthrax deception,

the case for a domestic conspiracy, which is unsurprisingly from its title,

about the anthrax attacks. He has consistently been one of the most careful and meticulous and

rational voices in the 9-11 truth movement, and I'm very happy to have him on the program today.

So thanks for being here, Graham. How are you? I'm doing well, Whitney, and thanks for having me.

Yeah, absolutely. My pleasure. So,

I first off, a lot of people, a lot has been said since, you know, we're recording this

after the 20th year, the exact anniversary of 9-11. But in this episode, I wanted to focus on

two major overarching aspects, I guess you could say, of the events of 2001, which have sort of been relegated to the status of forget, forget, forget, as opposed to never forget in the case of the Twin Towers,

but of course this conversation may branch into that as well.

But with the case of that, on September 11th, 2001 itself,

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